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2024-03-29T09:30:54Z
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Jezus, om uw lijden groot
2024-03-27T20:35:00Z
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Ellen van der Sar
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Komt, verwondert u hier, mensen
2024-03-23T19:55:05Z
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|Liedbundels={{Ld lb|Gezangboek voor de Evangelische Broedergemeente|95}}{{Ld lb|Gezangboek der Evangelisch-Lutherse Kerk|17}}{{Ld lb|Hervormde Bundel 1938|15}}{{Ld lb|Lieteboek 2013|478}}{{Ld lb|Liederen van het Leger des Heils|464}}{{Ld lb|Lieteboek foar de tsjerken|139}}{{Ld lb|Op Toonhoogte|74}}{{Ld lb|119 Gezangen|18}}{{Ld lb|Liederen voor de Gemeentezang|167}}{{Ld lb|Liedbundel met Bijbellezingen|282}}</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>|Liedbundels={{Ld lb|Gezangboek voor de Evangelische Broedergemeente|95}}{{Ld lb|Gezangboek der Evangelisch-Lutherse Kerk|17}}{{Ld lb|Hervormde Bundel 1938|15}}{{Ld lb|Lieteboek 2013|478}}{{Ld lb|Liederen van het Leger des Heils|464}}{{Ld lb|Lieteboek foar de tsjerken|139}}{{Ld lb|Op Toonhoogte|74}}{{Ld lb|119 Gezangen|18}}{{Ld lb|Liederen voor de Gemeentezang|167}}{{Ld lb|Liedbundel met Bijbellezingen|282<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">}}{{Ld lb|Geestelijke Liederenschat 1935|133</ins>}}</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [[Gerben Brouwer]] en [[Bernard Smilde]] maakten de Friese vertaling: '''Kom en sjoch it wûnder, minsken'''</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [[Gerben Brouwer]] en [[Bernard Smilde]] maakten de Friese vertaling: '''Kom en sjoch it wûnder, minsken'''</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Bij een uitgave van dit lied in de bundel [https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/_bli007blij01_01/_bli007blij01_01_0021.php#_bli007blij01_0021 Blijden-wegh tot Bethleem voor de Christelycke Jonckheit] uit 1645 staat als melodie vermeld: ‘[https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/_pri008prie01_01/_pri008prie01_01_0037.php#_pri008prie01_0035 Ecce tandem sempiternus sempiterni genitus]’. 'Komt verwondert u hier mensen' lijkt een bewerking en verdere doordenking van met name de laatste twee strofes van dit lied.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Bij een uitgave van dit lied in de bundel [https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/_bli007blij01_01/_bli007blij01_01_0021.php#_bli007blij01_0021 Blijden-wegh tot Bethleem voor de Christelycke Jonckheit] uit 1645 staat als melodie vermeld: ‘[https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/_pri008prie01_01/_pri008prie01_01_0037.php#_pri008prie01_0035 Ecce tandem sempiternus sempiterni genitus]’. 'Komt verwondert u hier mensen' lijkt een bewerking en verdere doordenking van met name de laatste twee strofes van dit lied.</div></td></tr>
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Jaap Kamphorst